地獄、罪與魔鬼
KWTC,1996
你為什麼開始吸毒?又為什麼你現在有時候會偷竊、欺騙、說謊,而且仍然想要吸毒?
你知道為什麼嗎?因為你的心(mind)不在你這裡。你的靈(spirit)不受你的指揮。你無法面對挑戰來臨的時刻。只要你沒有面對挑戰的時刻,並且贏得它,你就活在地獄裡。那就是原來地獄的意思。你與魔鬼一起生活。沒有什麼魔鬼。魔鬼就是當我們沒有自己純淨的意志(pure will)的時候。就變成 De-will(失去意志)。那自然也沒有什麼天堂了。天堂就是當我們的靈性處於高昂的狀態。即 Chardi Kalaa(昂揚、高昂的靈性狀態)。
問: 除了「罪人(sinner)」之外,有沒有更好的翻譯?
YB: 「罪人」的意思,是當你覺得自己已經沉淪了。罪人,是一種自我宣告(self-proclamation)。罪人,就是一種宣告:「我做錯了。」
我不知道什麼叫做「錯」。因為對每一個人來說,「錯」都有不同的定義。對基督徒而言,吃豬肉和牛肉都可以,這裡面沒有罪。對印度教徒而言,吃牛肉就是一種罪。對穆斯林而言,吃豬肉就是一種罪。
所以,我不知道什麼叫做罪。對穆斯林來說,在某一天把一隻可憐的小羊或山羊帶來,割斷牠的喉嚨,是在神面前的一種功德(merit)。對佛教徒而言,那卻是最糟糕的一種行為。
所以,你們的恐懼是非常沒有根據的。當有恐懼時,就有痛苦,就有報復,就有不安全感。那裡沒有自我(self)Dharma(道法)講的就是一個自我。當出售的不是你的自我 Self,那麼你就在道法 Dharma 之中。
你們有跟上我,聽懂我的意思嗎?
當你不需要別人的欣賞(appreciation),也不會貶低自己(depreciate yourself)去換取別人的欣賞時,你就在神的國度裡。這是一句非常有價值的話。
Hell, Sin & the Devil
KWTC, 1996
Why did you start taking drugs? And why do you sometimes steal, cheat, and lie now, and still try to take drugs? Do you know why? Your mind is not with you. Your spirit is not at your command. You cannot face the time of the challenge. As long as you do not face the time of the challenge and win it, you live in hell.
That's what hell means. You live with the devil.
There's no devil, Devil is when we do not have our pure will. De-will. There's no heaven. Heaven is when we are high in spirit. Cherdhi Kalaa.
Question: What would be the better translation, rather than saying sinner?
YB: Sinner means when you feel you are sunk. Sinner is a self-proclamation.
Sinner is a proclamation. "I have done wrong."
I don't know what is "wrong." For everybody there's a different definition of wrong. For a Christian, he can eat a pork and beef both; there's no sin in it. For a Hindu, eating beef is a sin. For a Muslim to eat pork is a sin.
So, I do not know what is a sin. For a Muslim, taking a poor lamb or a goat on a certain day and cutting its throat is a merit before God. For a Buddhist, it's the worst of its kind.
So your fears are very unfounded. When there's fear, there's pain, there's vengeance, there's insecurity. There's no self. Dharma is a self. When sale is not of the self, then you are in Dharma. Are you with me?
When you don't need appreciation and you don't depreciate yourself to get apprecia-tion, you are in the Kingdom of God. This is a very valuable sentence.
本文選自 The Science of Keeping Up 雜誌
Vol. Ⅳ. No.1


